‘Agatha All Along’ Creator Jac Schaeffer Talks Rio’s and Agatha’s First Meeting & The Identity of Nicholas’ Father

One of the most exciting parts of Agatha All Along was definitely the relationship between Rio Vidal and Agatha. Before the show came out, both Plaza and Hahn hinted that the two have a complicated and mostly romantic history.

In episode 4, it was revealed that they were in a relationship in the past, but it ended badly, with Rio now being Agatha’s personal enemy. Rio also said she had to do something terrible, and Agatha couldn’t forgive her, leaving a lasting emotional scar on Agatha.

In the final episode, we learn that Rio took Nicky away from Agatha. Agatha’s son was supposed to die at birth or shortly after, but Rio explained that while she couldn’t heal him, she could give him more time.

To buy that time, Agatha was forced to kill hundreds of witches, but Rio took Nicky anyway.

In short, it was a very tragic moment, and Agatha and Rio’s relationship never fully recovered. Rio spent centuries trying to find Agatha, while Agatha avoided Rio all those years.

One part of their story that we never saw was how they met, which the show’s creator, Jac Schaeffer, explained in detail in a recent interview with Variety.

We did. We talked a lot about their meet cute. We had these really pretty visuals of Agatha killing people and then seeing Rio across the bodies, like that line, “They met over corpses.” I mean, I saw it in my mind. It was really beautiful and also quite funny. And then the room took it in a direction that then they lived together in a cottage, and we talked at length about it, to the point of, “Is Rio Nicky’s father?”

We went down those paths, and they were very gratifying to explore. I think there’s more story there, but we were already biting off so much with the Nicky sequence that was vital to this story, that it didn’t feel like we could flash all the way back to Rio and Agatha before Nicky and then get into Nicky. It sort of threatened to tip the boat over, but I think all those discussions informed what you do see of their relationship.

I guess being a cosmic being means that biological sex doesn’t really matter to Rio, and she could technically father a child since biological rules don’t apply to her. But in the end, Schaeffer revealed that Rio is not the father.

So who is Nicky’s father?

That’s a story for another day, but ultimately for me, it’s irrelevant in this story.

Do you know who it is?

The truth is that even if I did have an answer, I don’t cover it in this property. So it is fodder for a story for another day, that I maybe don’t have control over.

The showrunner also explained what the line “made from scratch meant”

You do have Agatha saying “I made you from scratch” to Nicky right after he’s born, which could mean so many things, like he was conjured or he’s an immaculate conception. Where did that line come from? 

I came up with it, and [my co-writer] Laura Donney loved the line so much, she was like, “I feel like I could have written this,” but she said it in this lovely way of, “it is born of our work.” It’s my favorite line in the show, because I love the ambiguity of it. I welcome the interpretations.

For me, I believe it’s about the character of Agatha making something. Her power set is only about death and destruction. She can’t make anything. She doesn’t have chaos magic, like Billy and Wanda, and this is something that she made herself. It required no lying and no conning, and there’s something for her that is pure and beautiful about creation.

Source: Variety

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